Outside the screen porch we have found the ideal spot to grow a few things. The tomato if tied up would be about 7' tall and it has big beautiful tomatoes since they ripen while lying on the concrete and not the clay. The jalapeno plant has produced an abundance of peppers. HOT! peppers. The basil is growing like none we have grown before. Big and leafy which is a far cry from last years which was bug eaten and small. We may need to rethink the front porch garden next year.